Diary of a Matchmaker
Getting married is tough for the vast majority of Muslims in the West. We know because we’ve been there. My (Zaid) journey spanned nearly nine years. It was filled with rejections and self-doubt. While I (Hiba) didn't know there was a journey to be on in the first place. After we got married we decided to create something different to help single Muslims complete their deen. And so our matchmaking service Halal Match was born.
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Diary of a Matchmaker
Married My Professor: A Love Story From Jordan
What happens when a student catches feelings... for her professor? And what if he feels the same but can't say a word until the semester ends? This isn't your average love story. It’s a journey shaped by quiet moments, bold choices, and some family drama that challenged what they thought love would look like. Now 25 years in, they're sharing how it all started and what kept them going.
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This story is not your average love story. She was the student, he was a professor, but alhamdulillah they're married now with three beautiful children, and the road to getting there was not easy. Let's just say. Not everyone was cheering for them at first.
Speaker 2:Assalamu alaikum, I'm Hiba. And I'm Zaid, you're listening to Diary of a Matchmaker.
Speaker 1:A podcast that will take you into our world as matchmakers.
Speaker 2:We'll share our experiences and offer advice for the single Muslim.
Speaker 1:So let's dive in. Bismillah, assalamu alaikum everyone, welcome to another episode. My name is Zaid and on the other mic is my wife and co-host Hiba. Assalamu alaikum and assalamu ala, summer and Rami, thank you so much for inviting us to your house. The Muna'ish was lovely.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:It was phenomenal. And to the listeners, you're in for a treat. This story is not your average love story. She was the student, he was a professor, but alhamdulillah, they're married now with three beautiful children, and the road to getting there was not easy. Let's just say, not everyone was cheering for them at first. So we've heard the story before, but we're going to just kind of enter the story as beginners, like we're just hearing it for the first time. And so at what stage were you guys in your lives?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was a student at the fourth year in agricultural studies.
Speaker 4:I was 28 years old, 28?.
Speaker 1:And Mashal, you were a professor at that time.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:Wow. Okay. So you're 28 years old, Mash. You were a professor. How did you become a professor at such a young age?
Speaker 4:um, I started uh university at a younger age. I was 17 and I went straight through non-stop nine years, wow. So at 26 I was done. I had a job right away, thankfully, alhamdulillah. And then, um, yeah, I met samar a couple of years after that okay okay, we'll get to that part.
Speaker 2:Samar, where were you in your life, were you guys considering marriage before thinking about marriage?
Speaker 1:was it on the radar?
Speaker 3:for me. Uh, it was. Uh, I wasn't looking like I was just a student. But then I saw Rami and I thought he checked all the points on my list.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, so let's rewind just a little bit. So you signed up for an agricultural class? Yes, and it turned out Rami was the professor, so you entered into the class and then what it was fun.
Speaker 3:Were you just starstruck or no? No, it was fine like he. He taught us um. It was um co-teaching so he taught the first half semester and I um I like the way he interact with the student. He was a young professor, didn't use the authority. In our part of the region, a professor has authority. He can ask students to bring this and take that, because we were going to the field. He was doing all the things needed by himself, leading by example.
Speaker 3:So, I like that a lot about him because I didn't see that example before. It's bringing the Western mind into our culture, Right right, I like that a lot about him.
Speaker 1:So you already saw like attractive qualities in him, yes, yes, okay, that's wonderful, the good qualities in him as a person.
Speaker 3:Plus, he's dark and handsome and tall and tall, of course, okay.
Speaker 2:So did you notice her the first time in class or was she another student?
Speaker 4:At the beginning, you know, no, I didn't. To be honest, it was just, you know, a big class, Maybe I don't remember the exact number, but a fairly good-sized class. But then, you know, through interaction over time, I felt that she was mature and she presented herself in a nice way. But I didn't talk to her about it at all until way after that okay, okay what did you imagine your future spouse would be?
Speaker 2:did you think it's gonna be?
Speaker 1:someone like him first of all was married, was he? Was it even on the radar?
Speaker 4:actually, for me it was because you know I was in my late 20s and I was fairly ready. I, you know, had my career started and everything, but I was not in any hurry at the time. So if it happened, it happened. If it didn't, it didn't. That's when I started my job. So, I was going to wait and find the right person for me that you know were compatible in more than one way in terms of you know the way we think, our values, our background things like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, so summer's a student in your class, and was she like an ace student, like really pushing herself to stand out in the class? Or she was daydreaming about someone daydreaming or just like you know, not really focused in the class. Let's keep that up. So how many students were there roughly in the class?
Speaker 4:maybe 30, 30 okay.
Speaker 1:So how did you go about trying to make yourself stand out?
Speaker 3:I didn't, actually, you didn't, I didn't. I kept it to myself and I thought, because he's a professor, he might have someone, he might be engaged. I didn't pursue him because I didn't think that it's going to work.
Speaker 4:Okay and I can say this that class was an interactive course, so it wasn't a lecture in class, it was fieldwork. You're hands-on, so you get to work with each individual as well, so not just as a whole group, but individual students as well.
Speaker 2:So what was your first impression of her?
Speaker 4:I mean, of course, I was very impressed, you know, looks-wise, character-wise, personality-wise. She was very outgoing we come from a conservative society, but she was outgoing able to speak her mind and yeah, like she said, you know everything that she was looking for. Maybe I was looking for the same values in a person and same characteristics.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you're taking the course, you're attending all the classes. I'm assuming you never missed a class, never, never, never missed a class.
Speaker 3:Yes, and then he stopped. He taught us half a course and stopped and then he taught us another class again. We didn't interact at all until that class ended and I was about to have my final exams when Rami saw me in the hallway with other students and he says I don't see you anymore Because I used to go, because all the faculty members have offices in the fourth floor.
Speaker 3:So I used to go with one of my friends just to say, hi, pass there. And all their doors are open. So we just say hi and continue and before exams we stopped doing that because one of my friends advised me. Okay, so I listened. Okay, it's a hopeless case, so I listened. Then I met Rami just before exams and he asked me to come see him sometime.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Then, when I went to see him, he told me that he would like for us to like be properly introduced to our parents and maybe to get to know each other in a different way. Okay, so he made the first move.
Speaker 1:Yes, this is where the tables turned, but she's planted the seeds.
Speaker 2:I made myself visible.
Speaker 4:And I made sure to say this after she was done with classes, and this was her final semester. She was graduating, so I didn't want the relationship to be during that time when it wasn't going to be looked upon very, you know from others Right, so you were patient with the process.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's great to know.
Speaker 4:You weren't worried, she might be taken by then um you, you never know, but at the same time I was trying to keep the limits straight.
Speaker 1:Yeah okay, um. But at the same time, your concern must have been is the feeling mutual, right, because you don't know it that well actually I could sense it you know, you can, you can sense right when you talk to someone, you can see how how they look at you, how they talk to you how they smile, the body language, you can see all of that.
Speaker 4:So I was fairly sure that I was going to be met with the same feelings.
Speaker 1:But you know, of course it's not 100%, but that's how it seemed to me Okay, great, so you're in the office and then you kind of say these words and then obviously the next step is meeting the parents. So which set of parents did you guys meet first?
Speaker 4:Oh, so she she came. Yeah, I should. I should back up a little bit because also at some point in her program the students would do training on farm training. In her program the students would do training on farm training, and all of them rotated among farms and our family farm was one of those training stations.
Speaker 1:Oh, how convenient. Yeah, but it was for everybody, right, it wasn't?
Speaker 4:just for one person. It was for all students to rotate among those farms, so my parents had met her because she was doing her training on our farm for maybe a month, three weeks to a month. She was there every day. Sometimes, we had lunch together. My family with the students would have lunch together.
Speaker 2:We didn't know that part. Yes, look at that.
Speaker 4:This was between the first half course I taught and the second semester. It was like a summer course in between.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 4:So she would have met my parents. And then, when I spoke to her after she finished her exams, as we mentioned a little while ago, I told her that you know, wanted this to be proper and I would like for her family to know. You know, to start talking to her family, yes, Okay.
Speaker 2:How did your family take it?
Speaker 4:I didn't tell my dad okay because, because uh, like rami, wanted us to know each other, like the western way, like not necessarily the western way, but just to get to know each other more before we jump into an engagement.
Speaker 3:Yes, I came from a very, very strict family and my dad will never allow us to get to know each other without an official engagement. So I didn't tell my dad. I told my oldest brother, and he was studying abroad at the time and waited few months until he came to Jordan and took him to the university to meet Rami, so I did what I had to do.
Speaker 2:And how was that like meeting her brother?
Speaker 4:It was very nice, very nice. He and I are actually close friends now too. But we hit it off right away. We had a common background where we studied abroad, had different ideas than the local conservative ideas in our society in Jordan, more open to actually having a good relationship with the person, to get to know them before getting married and things like that. So he was open to the idea, but with wanting to just actually tell the family that wasn't going to be restricted to just him.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the next step was your brother talking to your dad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my brother told my dad. Then my dad got so angry because I told you he's very strict, very, uh, like conservative, and he said who should have gone to see who? He should have came to us, not you going to him and yeah it's like a big thing in arab culture like it's the guy's family who should initiate okay yes um, but then, like, in the end it went all well no, but we're not going to the end yet we need all the juicy things what happened in between?
Speaker 2:how long did your brother keep it a secret?
Speaker 3:oh, he didn't like. We just came back from university and I think, uh, at night he told my dad and then the storm has started and, uh, how did you like serve the storm?
Speaker 2:like, how did you and how did you like serve the storm? Like, how did you make sure to comfort your dad?
Speaker 3:and make him like, um, be open to it. Yeah, my dad is hard to convince. That's why I needed my brother, my oldest brother, to to be the messenger between us because, like for my dad, he thinks that we are friends and we tell each other everything because I'm his only daughter and he was very, very protective over me, but we weren't friends and we don't tell each other anything. I'm afraid of him.
Speaker 2:Again reminds me of my dad.
Speaker 3:What about your mom in the picture my mom was kind like loving, but she didn't have that authority to tell him just back off. I'll deal with it. No, he controls everything he's a very, very kind man, very kind, but he used to scare us when we were I hope your dad is not listening to this episode he passed away away five years, thank you.
Speaker 2:Okay, now you go and meet the father, meet the mother. How was that like?
Speaker 4:Yes. So of course I called the house, spoke to her dad and arranged a meeting to come with my family. So we went and met with them and it turned out they know common people. He actually knew of my grandfather in Palestine. He knew of him and my mom's aunt had taught Summer's mom in school as well. So, yes, my mom's aunt taught in Summer's hometown. So they kind of found some common ground, some relationships here and there. So it was good to get things started and, yeah, it was a great meeting.
Speaker 2:First, you know, first impression from both sides yeah, did you ever at some point like feel that this is strange? A professor and a student?
Speaker 4:it's not wrong, but it's unconventional it is, you're right, it is unconventional, even though it happens there, um, in our society more than it does here, really, because because there, you know, it's a especially for conservative um cultures. You know, like this is, you don't get a chance to meet, uh, your, your um, the opposite sex, other than maybe university setting would be the closest thing For me. I studied overseas, I didn't study in Jordan, so I didn't get a chance to meet anyone that I was interested in. I wasn't planning to marry someone from outside, so I wanted to go back home and find the right person for me. So this would be my best, best chance. I didn't want to go the the old-fashioned, conventional way of just hearing about someone and going to visit different homes. This was not for me. I wanted to know the person. I wanted to know my future wife and, you know, get to know her well before we take the next step.
Speaker 1:So I'm curious what were some of the questions that you guys were asking each other just to make sure that you were compatible, that your values aligned, or was it kind of just like an organic process?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we didn't have For me. I didn't have anything like structured, because I was so young, thought that this man is kind. One of the most important qualities that I was looking for for a future husband is to be kind, and Rami is like he's showing his kindness throughout.
Speaker 4:And keep in mind I'm not much older than her. She makes it sound like I'm that much older, less than 6 years apart.
Speaker 2:He's trying to compliment himself no but we are witnesses to this kindness to our listeners. Rami and Samar are dear friends of ours and, mashallah. They're very active in the community. They're always caring for others and we can see. We can see why you guys ended up together seriously okay, how long did your engagement last?
Speaker 4:so it was a two-step engagement. So the first, you know after the first uh visit or second visit, then we read the fat. You guys call it Baq Baki.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it's like the confirmation between two parties.
Speaker 4:Yes, so it wasn't Kat Biktab yet, so it was just the initial. You know that we both are. You know the families are happy that we got to meet as families and as people, as individuals. This way we get to spend some time to get to know each other officially and that lasted from August until May. So we read the Fatiha in August and May of the following year was the official. We called Jaha and Katbiktab.
Speaker 2:So you didn't have an engagement like official engagement.
Speaker 4:It was in May.
Speaker 2:Oh, May was the engagement.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so the Qaraat al-Fatiha was just immediate family, like on both sides.
Speaker 3:Okay, my dad didn't like this arrangement at the beginning because he wanted Katpiktab right away.
Speaker 2:Immediately yeah.
Speaker 3:But then he abused it he liked it so much because he kept us meeting as if it's um, it's a work meeting. Rami would come visit, and for a few hours then he's gone. We don't leave the house, we don't go out.
Speaker 4:It worked perfect for him but also also like on um, on the weekend you would come with your brother as well to our house.
Speaker 3:Yes, with my brother.
Speaker 4:And then you know then we get to spend time together, just Samar and I, and at her house was just she and I. We just sit and talk and get to know each other more.
Speaker 2:But they would always keep an eye on you, right? I mean not necessarily no, I mean, we just sit in the room.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but I mean no. When I went to the house at the beginning I'd sit with the family and talk, maybe have coffee or something, and then we would just go and sit in a room separate and talk, Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:So it was independent after that, you know Okay.
Speaker 1:So were there any objections or hesitations from the community?
Speaker 3:you know given the relationship, or was it just like support throughout? No, like it was fine, it was well celebrated Alhamdulillah, yeah from everyone.
Speaker 4:And my family loved Samar and her family, so it wasn't you know, an issue at all from anybody.
Speaker 2:You didn't tell us about your family's reaction, by the way. Was it like so normal and natural?
Speaker 4:oh, yes, they're very supportive they. They knew that this is the way I wanted to meet my future wife. I didn't want to go the conventional way of just trying to get engaged right off the bat. So they knew I wanted to get to know the person ahead of time and they were very supportive of that and especially that they had met Summer at the time. You know like I mentioned during the training. So they, you know, got to speak with her. They knew her, they saw her character. She's outgoing, she's funny, you know so.
Speaker 2:Okay, Now we get to the wedding. Now quick question do you?
Speaker 4:remember one year's anniversary of course sometimes I forget mine yeah, we got married, uh, two months after the jaha. So jaha in in jordan is when you know the, the groom, and you know men from the family and friends circle go to the girls' family and it's all men, face-to-face, so they ask for her hand in marriage. Officially, you have one of the elders from the groom's side and the elder from the bride's side. One asks for her hand and the other one agrees and then drink the coffee and then after that we had our Katbiktab and the engagement, an engagement party, wow.
Speaker 4:So that was in May and then the official wedding was in July, so this July will be 25th anniversary, mashaallah.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. Any special celebration.
Speaker 4:We're thinking of a trip.
Speaker 2:What is it called?
Speaker 1:25 years. What is it called um 25 years? Where's it?
Speaker 2:silver, silver okay so what changed after marriage?
Speaker 4:uh, not nothing really changed. Everything changed to the better. Um, my father-in-law summer mentioned was very strict, but when we got to know each other he was a super kind man, allah irhamu, and we became super super close friends, he and I. I spent more time with him than his sons, honestly. I had more in common with him in terms of farming and football and sports and things like that, so we would watch games together, do things together. So I yeah, we became really really close.
Speaker 3:And you felt left out, or what Rami had to go back.
Speaker 4:At times he did I know.
Speaker 3:Rami had to go back to Jordan for two years. After we came to Canada, that is, and I stayed here with the kids and he used to see my dad twice a week and then my dad called me and said someone, why don't you stay there? You're good, you're a strong woman. Because? Because my brothers where they are still working out of Jordan, so Rami was his only son. And he enjoyed his company a lot.
Speaker 2:When did you guys move to Canada?
Speaker 4:2011. So, approaching 14 years in September.
Speaker 1:So what was the impetus or the reason for the move, just honestly, for the kids sake.
Speaker 4:Um, I think a lot of the people who immigrate from their countries. They look for better future for their children for the next generation we had um. You know I had a very steady job, very nice career ahead of me and we lived a comfortable life. Yeah, we left a comfortable life to come here and we did with sacrifice for the kids we, you know our um. We're not going to talk about it in terms of politics, but we knew that the region was not set for for a good future yeah all, right all right.
Speaker 1:What stands out to me about your story is that you guys, like I know in art of culture he always says this that there's this understanding of nasib like oh, just wait until it happens, it'll happen when it happens, but you guys were proactive right like you knew, there was mutual interest and so both of you were putting in the effort and alhamdulillah opened doors and and the stars aligned and everything happened, but the important thing was that you were putting in the work and that's something I wish more people did.
Speaker 1:right Like you have to tie your camel, and that's very important.
Speaker 4:And we advise our kids that you know we want them to do the same thing. We don't want them to just, you know, rush into it and try to. You know, just to be married I have to find someone right away. We encourage them that you know if you have a chance to meet someone that both you know our sons and our daughter.
Speaker 4:We advise, we give the same advice. We would like them to meet their future spouse and get to know them on their own and then bring us into it, you know. I mean we want them to be honest with us when they find someone and tell us and share with us and let them meet that person, let us meet that person and at the same time we want them to know that they have that. You know, our approval Like we're not going to be strict and restrictive of what they're looking for yeah, Okay.
Speaker 4:So you don't want the person to be Jordanian or Syrian. We have preference. We trust their judgment. Yeah, we trust their judgment. If they find someone, you know that they feel that this is the right person. We're not going to stand in the way. We're not going to stand in the way.
Speaker 2:Yes, we're not going to stand in the way very nice and a lot of our previous episodes. We talk about communication between parents and kids and how sometimes, like because parents are so strict or so traditional kids feel like they have to hide things from their parents and then it becomes difficult. There's somebody and they're already in a relationship and the parents are not on board and yeah. So it's great that you have open communication with your absolutely.
Speaker 4:I mean we. When we hear them talking about somebody from this friend circle, we're like okay, uh, you mentioned this person so many times. Is there interest?
Speaker 2:there's no, they're suggesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's great, yeah I mean to add to that. That's so true. I mean, I recall this from a client that we just had recently where the mother wanted something like she specifically wanted a pakistani for her daughter, but the daughter was like no, I'm open to other ethnicities. And they immediately the mother and daughter weren't on the same page. Yeah right. So it's very important and it's great that you guys have that open communication that you, parents and children, are on the same page in terms of what the children are attracted to, what their goals are, so that when you guys start searching, you're searching with their perspective in mind.
Speaker 2:So that's amazing, yeah. But you know, guys, you were lucky because, like, you found each other in Jordan, but here Muslims like including your kids growing up in the West it's not that easy.
Speaker 4:True.
Speaker 2:So what advice would you give a single Muslim who's been looking for so long and on the brink of just giving up?
Speaker 4:I mean there are lots and lots of good people here. You just have to find the right way to meet them right. So there are opportunities. We tell them that the best opportunity is during your education. This is the chance that you're going to meet more people. After you get out to the real world, you're working, then you're confined to whether it's an office or a certain group of people that you don't have as much access to be involved, let's say, in events as you would be when you're a student on campus. There are lots of events where there's a chance to meet. If that doesn't happen, you know our son did not find his future spouse in the university. So I mean, he's still young. Of course we're not pushing for that, but he still has a chance. We're just telling him to take his time. You know, keep thinking about it In the meantime. He's still young, he's not looking for now.
Speaker 3:Maybe we're more concerned than he is, but he's young and I think people should use like experts like you yourselves. Use like experts like you yourselves like, because, like as you said, it's harder for our kids or for young generation who lives in here to find each other, or so why don't we ask professionals for a professional help, like?
Speaker 2:that's. That's what we're here for, yeah absolutely no.
Speaker 1:It's great you mention that because there's just the, you know, there's this shyness or aversion towards seeking help, especially us Arabs, by the way, like.
Speaker 2:Pakistanis and Indians and other cultures. They're more open to seeking help, but with us Arabs especially like with matchmakers, it's this mentality.
Speaker 4:Maybe, yeah, it could be. Of course we don't see it. Maybe we're more open to these ideas than some of the conservative people. We think it's a great idea. Yeah for sure, Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1:So what's something you thought marriage would be like, but it wasn't. After marriage, like this expectation, maybe this preconceived notion of marriage. But then you got married and you thought, hmm, this is this a bit different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for me. Sorry, rami, I didn't have expectations actually.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:I didn't have any expectations and even if I, the only model I had is my dad, which is a big authority over the house, and we all are afraid of him. But when I got married, rami was my friend, so it was beyond my expectations.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you.
Speaker 4:I'm blushing now.
Speaker 2:I think that she deserves a gift for that.
Speaker 4:Absolutely Maybe a diamond ring.
Speaker 3:I think it's just because my parents are happy with me?
Speaker 2:Alhamdulillah, alhamdulillah. What about you, rami?
Speaker 4:what about you, rami? Um, I was. Uh, the main thing that you know we grew up with and hear about in and cultures is what we call hamau kinney. Uh, you know mother-in-law and you know daughter-in-law, and the same on both sides. You know it goes both. Uh, you know the mothers-in-law but we're lucky. Um, our parents are not like that. You know, I felt like I was a son to my in-laws and someone is like a daughter to my parents and we, you know, we've still.
Speaker 4:This is how it is sweet and that's the same with my. I don't have any sisters, I have, you know, my brother's wives are in our family, were really really close and not like the misconception about how it is Alhamdulillah that's a huge blessing.
Speaker 2:May Allah keep this blessing, alhamdulillah. If you had to do it all over again, what is one thing you would change?
Speaker 4:I mean, I don't know. For me I think everything went the right way. I was very happy. Like I say, I studied abroad and I was not looking to to find someone from outside my culture to bring her to live in jordan. I didn't feel that would be fair for her because at the time I didn't see myself living outside of jordan, so I didn't want to to find um, a wife from overseas and, you know, bring her to change a lot of things about how she's used to living. So when I came back to get my job and start working, yes, I was looking to find somebody from within and I wouldn't change a thing the way it happened, the way I met Samar and the way everything has evolved. Like she said, we're very close friends.
Speaker 1:She's my best friend and partner and everything, and we have a beautiful family, the kids are.
Speaker 4:You know, we're very proud of them.
Speaker 1:And yeah, how do you feel your marriage changed after children To the best?
Speaker 4:Really.
Speaker 3:For me I was thinking when we first, when I first got pregnant with Zaid, my oldest son, with Zaid, my oldest son, I wasn't that excited because I needed some time with Rami to go to travel, like to see the world from after marriage. But I got pregnant right away and that was the only thing at that time. I hoped like for it to be to happen later, but now I wouldn't change it for the world like we were blessed not to wait not to go through anything of that, and it was for the best.
Speaker 2:Alhamdulillah. So funny how you're Abu Zaid M Zaid, and this is Zaid yes, us for the best, okay, some good, neither of.
Speaker 4:Maybe we're pretending we're not Neither one of us is strict we don't stick our minds.
Speaker 2:We're open to any ideas. Who's the better cook?
Speaker 3:Samer, he's too kind, he's adventurous. He would learn new recipes. I stick to the traditional but, he brings new recipes to this house.
Speaker 1:Who makes better Mansaf? Oh, me too. I don't make Mansaf, that's a lie.
Speaker 2:He just eats Mansaf. I don't try. And who is more dramatic?
Speaker 4:I don't know. We're not, we're not dramatic.
Speaker 2:Okay now, I seriously suspect if you're Arab or not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're not dramatic okay, now I seriously suspect if you're arab or not. Okay, one word. I would say. What one word that describes your marriage.
Speaker 2:Just one word happiness, absolutely well guys, you heard it love is possible, love is out there, even if it's a student and a professor. May may allah keep this beautiful family happy and blessed, and thank you so much for opening your hearts to us, sharing your story we appreciate.
Speaker 4:Thank you for inviting us to your show and, yes, we're happy to to be part of it and we wish you and the listeners all the best.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. Thank you till next time. Till next time.